Mika Brzezinski: ‘Trump Went Where Nixon Never Did’ with Stone Commutation

MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski suggestd on Monday that President Donald Trump has pushed the boundaries of the presidency further than Richard Nixon by commuting the sentence of his long-time ally Roger Stone. Stone was convicted of federal crimes.

The Morning Joe host discussed the commutation with legal analyst Benjamin Wittes and historian John Meacham.

“Ben, I want to ask you in a second about any potential recourse or oversight or what happens now, but first John Meacham, Trump went where Nixon never did,” Brzezinski said.

“I question what does a historian do to put this into context, to think of a president and to sort of — how does a historian address this moment in history? This incident in a way that kind of gives it some greater understanding?”

“Well, you try to take Dramamine, that’s important, so that’s the first step. So medication is always essential,” Meacham joked.

“History is, in many cases, like an iceberg. There are parts of it you can see, but there’s an enormous amount you cannot, and over time you hope you see what was below. And that’s certainly true with Trump. But what we do see is pretty clear, right.”

“We have a president who would prefer to be a monarch,” Meacham said. “He is using the powers of the presidency that were installed as a check and a balance to put things out of balance, in fact. And character matters here.”

Watch the video above, via MSNBC.